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Re: About my instructor

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Offline DENNIS MCCRAY

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Re: About my instructor
« on: May 19, 2011, 01:33:35 PM »
HELLO TO ALL...I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME WITH INFO ON MY SIFU AND HIS INSTRUCTOR AND WHAT BRANCH,STYLE OR METHOD OF KAJU I COME FROM.I AM CURRENTLY NOT TRAINING BECAUSE MY SIFU DOESNT TEACH AT THIS MOMENT,BUT HIS NAME IS SIFU RAY LOPEZ AND HIS INSTRUCTOR WAS SIFU JOHN VALDEZ..THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 09:31:02 AM »
Do you have any other information or anecdotal stories that were told as part of class history? Things such as where the classes took place (geographically) when they happened (year, month etc.).

This information may cause some cobwebs to clear.

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 11:40:16 AM »
the only info i have is the classes were held at the salvation army in stockton ca.they were held on tuesdays and thursdays from 6:30 to 8:30,hope this helps thanks

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 12:10:16 AM »
Actually, I think I may have found your roots at this website: http://www.kemscrimadoh.com/sifu.html

If you read through, you'll find Ray Lopez, Liz Lopez and John Valdez as this fellows black belts. Let us know if this makes sense.

"About The Founder
In 1956, at age 13, he stumbled upon two brothers practicing martial arts, and what ensued was his first formal Kempo class under the tutelage of Sensei Don Cadiente in Tekenjitsu-Kai, a style featuring Karate, Kempo, and Jujitsu. Later on, he would go on to train under Don's brother, Sensei Roy Cadiente in Goju-Ryu Karate.

Upon graduating from high school and moving about the country, he continued training under many styles and systems. To name a few, he continued practicing Kempo under Dan Guzman of Glendale, CA; one of Ed Parker's top students. In a move back to Northern California, he became a part of the Kajukenbo system under the tutelage of Sifu Albert J. Dacascos. He would go on to earn the rank of 3rd degree Black Belt and earn his Instructor's Certificate under Kajukenbo founder Adriano Emperado in 1968.[/i]



Friends of Sifu Abrescy
           Quan's Bushido Kai  -     GM Merrill Jung    - Sensei Steve Macillas
In the late 1970's, he would refine his Escrima under Great Grandmaster Remy A. Presas, the father of Modern Arnis. Brother to Remy, Great Grandmaster Ernesto Presas and founder of Combatan Escrima, would also serve as a well-respected Escrima influence. You can also explore a comprehensive diagram of Sifu Abrescy's Circle of Influence.

In 1968, Sifu Abrescy would form "Chi-Fi Kempo Karate" serving as the first prototype system. The first two Blackbelts produced were Cesario Roquetta and Sifu Abrescy's nephew John Valdez. They would go on to form their own organization's and produce Blackbelts such as Ray Lopez, Liz Lopez, Gene Weber, and Frank Rillamas. Many of these "descendants of descendants" still pay homage to Sifu Abrescy, as they he serves as a "Grandfather" to their instructors and respective systems such as Lopez Kajukenbo, Bojitsu-Kai, and Chi-Fi Serrada.

At the turn of the decade in 1970, Sifu Abrescy formed the second prototype entitled "Tamaraw: Kempo Kuntao Escrima," named after the Tamaraw water buffalo found in a remote island of the Philippines. This nearly extinct species has been known to cut paths of destruction through the thickest of jungles once provoked. As this wild animal embodied the strength, spirit, and demeanor of the art, it has been a part of the coat of arms and centerpiece of all emblems.

In 1985, Sifu Abrescy would blend three arts to develop the art of Kemscrima-Doh, featuring the eclectic blend of Chinese Kempo, Filipino Escrima, and Indonesian Kuntao. Key role players included long time student and protege Pete Padron, along with Manuel O. Canalita who coined the term "Kemscrima-Doh." Translated, Kemscrima-Doh is "The Way of the Stick and Fist." Over the past 25 years, he has spread the art of Kemscrima-Doh in both principle, theory, and art form.

In 2006, marking 50 years in the Martial Arts, Sifu Glenn Abrescy celebrated with current students, affiliates, and old Kemscrima-Doh practicioners alike. While he had trained with many styles, instructors, and systems, many came to pay homage to him for passing knowledge to them over the years as well.

Today, Sifu Abrescy resides in Merced, CA with his wife Philomena Abrescy, overseeing both the Headquarters and an extension program, "Livingston Kempo Karate" located in Livingston, CA. In addition to instructing a Martial Arts Physical Education Course at the local Merced Junior College, he occasionally travels to affiliate and associate schools to oversee seminars, rank testings, and tournaments. Although he has many achievements and has earned the respect of many over the past 50 years, his continued goal is to share knowledge, pass on traditions, and spread the art of Kemscrima-Doh. "
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 12:53:48 AM »
Any way, Abrescy is under GM Dacascos on the Tree (though it looks like he earned his original black belt under someone else since he's under a black line [he's not under Guzman though on the Tree]). It looks like he promoted Valdez in "Chi-Fi Kempo Karate" but then Valdez' student is calling his art "Lopez Kajukenbo". Neither Valdez, nor Lopez is on the Family Tree under Abrescy, but that could just be because he didn't give GM Gelinas their names if he did rank them in Kajukenbo as well as the other system.

In any case, you're under the Dacascos line rather than Ramos as near as I can tell.

How long did you train and to what belt? How long ago?

Here's another couple of links that discusses Ray Lopez's classes that you attended:

http://www.salvationarmy.usawest.org/USW/www_newfrontierpub.nsf/vw_print/B255FAB5DFDF580B88256DBB0062F0E0?openDocument

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010814/A_SPORTS/308149937

See what happens when I get bored?  ;)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2011, 01:04:13 AM by Danjo »
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 01:55:06 PM »
WOW, Thank You Sifu Weston for being bored.Either Im not that good with a computer or maybe you should take up a career as a private investigator. That clears up a lot for me, I only reached yellow belt through Sifu Lopez but thats because the salvation army where we studied closed the classes down. Since then I've moved from Stockton to Tracy ca and have been studying and promoted to purple belt in the Gaylord method. While I respect all those who have earned there rank and the right to teach, myself I prefered the teaching of Sifu Lopez over what I have been learning as there is clearly a difference in the techniques and the way the classes are taught. With that being said I just wanted to know what was the lineage of Sifu Lopez because both methods are chuan fa but totaly different

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 02:03:10 PM »
Whcih Sifu Lopez?
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 02:23:39 PM »
Sifu Ray Lopez. He taught out of the salvation army located in stockton ca

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 03:47:49 PM »
Got ya...
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 04:09:16 PM »
Have you met Sifu Lopez before Prof Bono, and if so can you tell me why the teachings are different since both come from the chuan fa style of kajukenbo

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 04:55:41 PM »
Different Lopez I had met
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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 06:16:38 PM »
... and if so can you tell me why the teachings are different since both come from the chuan fa style of kajukenbo

Hi Dennis,

You had mentioned you have received your purple belt at a dojo in Tracy that was Gaylords method, was that Delta Kajukenbo?   If so, the "Chuan Fa" which was established in the 60's by Sifu's Al Dacascos and Delacruz is different from that of GM James Juarez.   Although both use (K)Gung-Fu from both the North and South of China, there are differences, but nonetheless, still "Chuan Fa".     Even within a branch, there are variations to the way things are taught, depending on the preference of the instructor.  That is why I always recommend for a person to physically visit a school before signing a contract to join, because not all schools are for all people.

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »
Thank You GM Vargas for the explination on the subject of chuan fa. As I am in the process of moving back to Stockton ca I will be seeking out my old instructor to continue my training under him with the hopes he can start a offical school or just learn where ever he can teach

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 06:34:05 PM »
Thank You GM Vargas for the explination on the subject of chuan fa. As I am in the process of moving back to Stockton ca I will be seeking out my old instructor to continue my training under him with the hopes he can start a offical school or just learn where ever he can teach

Dennis,  I am no GM, just a *low-ranker*.

I hope your search produces much fruit, as I know how it feels to find a good instructor, and also know how it feels to lose one.

Take care.

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Re: About my instructor
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 08:01:23 PM »
Aloha,

For historical purposes, the soft system was first integrated within the hard style Kenpo was the brain child of Sijo.  He associated himself with some of finest martial arts practitioners in China Town.  These practitioner names are generally not the household names that have been documented in the History of Kajukenbo.  One practitioner that I am aware of is "Bozo Hong."  GM Henry Mandac had told me that Sijo use to add the soft techniques into original method while he trained his students at Palama Settlement. The person that is responsible to introducing Sijo to these practitioners is Master Mike Young.  Although Sifu Dacascos and Dela Cruz were instrumental in teaching the Kajukenbo Chu'an Fa system and consider the Co-Founders, both have different flavors/styles between their systems.  GM Gaylord's system is what he added into his original training (hard style) and called it Chu'an Fa.  Everyone, no matter what system(s) you belong, they have added their own flavor.  

Respectfully,

Gerry Scott  
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