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Business arrangements in health clubs

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Business arrangements in health clubs
« on: April 02, 2008, 09:58:39 AM »
I am soliciting advice from those who have ever used a health club as training facility. My questiions are; did you charge per student and split the money with the owner or did you charge a flat rate? Did you have to carry your own insurance? did you co-op on advertising? And finally, what were your drawbacks and gains from this arrangement?
I look forward to your responses as I am considering approaching a gym here to use as my school location but I would like to know the pitfalls first.
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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 10:34:44 AM »
Sifu,
         When I was in a health club, I charge $50.00 and $20.00 went to him.  I did not carry insurance because the facility belong to the owner.  I was not going to be responsible if a student lift weights after class and got hurt.  The other health club I was in, he required everyone to be a member.  In that scenario, I charge $80.00, $30.00 went to the monthly fee for the gym, but they could workout also.  The owner also charge a contract/paper work fee.  You need to speak to the owner, might give you a better deal than the manager.

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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 10:37:14 AM »
I am soliciting advice from those who have ever used a health club as training facility. My questiions are; did you charge per student and split the money with the owner or did you charge a flat rate? Did you have to carry your own insurance? did you co-op on advertising? And finally, what were your drawbacks and gains from this arrangement?
I look forward to your responses as I am considering approaching a gym here to use as my school location but I would like to know the pitfalls first.
  Thanks

I charge per student (a monthly fee)
*the gym does all the advertising and marketing for me and provides equipment (pads, bags, mits, etc.)

I provide my own insurance

my contract is set for me to get 80% and the gym gets 20% of sales.

The gym staff sells the class membership and gives me a copy of all paperwork for my records.

It's a sweet deal for me and I realy cant think of any cons.

*Keep in mind I am on the Naval Base and my contract is military through the Moral Wellness and Recreation dept.

Good luck Brother,
Dean 8)

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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 10:43:10 AM »
  
   I did it for 2yrs  at the Hayward Heath club   I had a lots Kaju guys come and
    workout  they paid me per person and free membership also it depends
    what you are teaching iwas teaching boxing 1day and kickboxing
     4times aweek  before i moved   also Gm Harper may be working
  a at his HeathClub  soon  i hope i didnt jump the gun  maybe you can
      ask him   good luck      Ted
      
      ps i can tell more but i type to slowlol

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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 11:07:00 AM »
I taught in a health club at one time and they took a percentage of sales and the insurance was covered through them as we were using their facilities to train in. I would, however, advise having your own insurance anyway as it's not normally alot of money anyway.

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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 01:33:05 PM »
Sifu I currently teach a boxing class at a local health club and spoke to my attorney prior to agreeing to do so and here is what he said- Regardless of what kind of liability waiver the gym has, get a separate one signed (C.Y.A) The gym's waiver may not specifically list all types of injuries that are associated with a martial arts class, etc. He wrote one for me, which I will be glad to get you a copy of if you like. Also, the arrangments we have are that everyone must be a member of the gym that participates, but they get a good deal on the gym membership.

One downside to it in my particular case is that the gym owner often tells people to just pop in class and check it out for a while and see how they like it, often without telling me. Thats a failure to communicate on my part so I accept the responsibility for that one.

I do not carry insurance as I was assured after having the policy reviewed that any activity that occurs inside the the gym is on the owner.

If I can help, give me a shout

Hope that helps.

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Absolute Martial Arts West Monroe, La.

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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 03:15:22 PM »
Jason I would like to see that form...
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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 04:16:19 PM »
Sure thing Prof. Bono. Will try to post it here if I can. If not, I can email it.
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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 05:46:45 PM »
Sibak Jason,

I sure would appreciate a copy also.  So if you can not post it here, could you email to me also?


Thanking you and with my respects,


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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 06:14:08 PM »
If you check at the left bottom of the reply page you'll see, "Additional Options".  Cllick on that and you should be able to post pdf, word, etc, attachments.
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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2008, 06:38:47 PM »
Regardless of what kind of liability waiver the gym has, get a separate one signed (C.Y.A)

Great advice! I highly recommend doing that even if you are just giving a one-time seminar at a gym.
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Re: Business arrangements in health clubs
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 02:04:05 AM »
It all depends on the neighberhood
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