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Title: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Aloha Aina on September 03, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
http://lfhv.org/2017/06/22/on-hawaiian-philosophy-and-the-art-of-kajukenbo/ (http://lfhv.org/2017/06/22/on-hawaiian-philosophy-and-the-art-of-kajukenbo/)

Some reading :) Aloha!
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: envisiontj on September 03, 2017, 07:27:24 PM
Thank you for the write-up. I was only able to skim it thus far, but plan to read through it more thoroughly.

One correction I do see though sir, GM Garcia is a 9th Degree, not a 10th Degree. No one in Kajukenbo, other than Sijo and the co-founders hold a 10th degree. Sijo capped everyone at 9th Degree, with NO exceptions.
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Aloha Aina on November 26, 2017, 03:06:53 PM
thank you!

about 10th I have many other examples but I will no go there any longer....old discussion.
For us he is a 10th no problem :)

Mahalo nui loa!
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Tim Vargas on November 27, 2017, 06:08:05 PM
very nice.

a correction to the correction...Sijo capped the title,  Senior Grandmaster, to one BOA at a time, no exceptions. 

According to the First Kajukenbo Unity Meeting in Fresno, the real wishes were that the BOA would be 10th deg., the one and only Senior Grandmaster would be 11th, and Sijo would be the ONLY 12th.   GM Angel Garcia only accepted what was his due.  Ofcourse, we were told Sijo was talked out of his wishes, as if he didnt know what he wanted for his System. 

Wonderful Holidays to everyone! 

Kajukenbo Forever!
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: envisiontj on November 28, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
Ah, a correction to that.  I was at the first Unity Meeting.  The whole 10th, 11th and 12th issue was brought up and shot down.  That definitely was not what was expressed as Sijo's wishes, nor was it approved as a whole at the meeting.  There were those that wanted to do so, but those few were in the great minority.  It was expressed by a huge majority that absolutely this was not to be the case.  There are other posts here on the CafĂ© where this issue has been addressed, in regards to the 10th Degree and GM Garcia both.

Why make a 10th?  That was the question at the meeting.  What is the point?  When will it stop?  Because some 9th Degrees want to be 10th, as they have been 9th for a long period of time?  Well what happens if life extends longer and they are 10th for too long?  Then they get an 11th?  Basically, what is the problem with just being content with a 9th?  Why the driving desire for another rank?  The chasing of rank and titles has caused tremendous issues within our Art and most every other Art there is, from White Belt on up.  There just is no need of it, and the consensus of the leaders of Kajukenbo, and of the Kajukenbo family as a whole, is there is NO 10th Degree, nor is there to ever be one.

Sijo's wishes have changed many times over the years on many topics, and they have also been manipulated by others over the years.  Those close to him at the end know what his final wishes were and we have to count on them to uphold that.  But, again, WHY??  Why would someone need a 10th Degree?  There is just no justifiable need of it, otherwise at that meeting we would have had a different discussion about it.  Ahhh, I could just keep typing, but there is no need to do so.
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Bautista's on November 29, 2017, 04:45:10 PM
The degree does not change the person character or who he is, it's what you make of it!!
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Aloha Aina on December 05, 2017, 04:45:58 PM
anyone is reading the article :) ??  :D ;D
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: handsofstoneredux on December 14, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
Great article
Title: Re: Kajukenbo and violence
Post by: Aloha Aina on January 08, 2018, 02:57:51 AM
Mahalo nui Sifu!