Thank you very much Georgina. That was great to get "perspective."
BTW, may I ask that you modify your profile to include a "real" name and a quick affiliation as is required by the cafe policy. Thanks.
I would be surprised if this person puts his real name in his profile. Appears to me to be a typical profile of a person that talks big online but then hides behind the veil of anonymity. Then again, I could be wrong.
Something else has been bothering me about this topic, unrelated to the above. I'm wondering what people are training to hit? Seems to me that "groin" is being used by some to be specific areas such as the genitals. So does that mean that is where people are aiming their shots?
It is a vital area, but as I was taught the primary targets are the Conception Vessel 1 ( CV-1 ) -- Midway between the genitals and the anus, and the small intestine or hip track. Our opening salutation has a kick to the Conception Vessel 1. I prefer the kick to the small intestine however, because I believe it breaks the posture of the enemy very effectively.
The purpose of groin protection is to protect yourself. You get hit in that area, whether on purpose or because the hit missed something near there such as the Conception Vessel or the small intestine, then that hard cup is extra protection. 'Nuff said, this is found out in training.
As for another point about full power hits to the groin area. I thought the point of hitting a vital area was that you did not have to hit full power to be effective. e.g. A full power strike to the throat is a kill strike, a controlled strike can be used to stun.
I remember one person coming to me surprised that she kicked a man in the groin during sparring and he shook it off (e.g. was not dropped by it or really bothered by it). She thought she kicked him fairly hard. My first response was "kick him harder next time" but then I asked what technique she was using. What she showed me I would describe as the top of the foot spear kick (which can also be the shin at closer range). I consider that kick to be a "kill shot" meaning that if you kick the person like that as hard as you can, they can eventually die from internal bleeding if they don't get medical attention quick enough. A very light kick like that can work by shocking the nerves and drop someone, but probably very rarely that happens if a person sees it coming or is under high levels of adrenaline. I remember Sigung Mateo telling me he did that shot right out of the Pinan 2 kata in a real fight, lifted the guy off the ground with it. The guy did not go down. Later on he was hurting very much, but it did not stop him from fighting.
I told the person that I like the ball of the foot front kick to the small intestines better, like the kick in Gaylord Method, Punch and Counter 1A. Use the kick to stun and unbalance the opponent so that they bend forward at the hips. Then you have a moment to drive your knee into their face or do something else.
The key was to use the kick to stun and unbalance the target. This is much better in training, IMHO, because you know if it works or not, because if you don't unbalance your training partner, you know it ain't effective.
Just my opinion on this.